Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Lots of times these powerful pastors mete out some discipline or are heavy-handed with a churchgoer and not as gracious as they could have been or maybe the pastor was wrong the sheep was rightand then the pastor gives them the left foot of fellowship and the rest of the ginormous following does the shunning etc.so I understand why some will have their moment of glee over this. I agree, lets drop the rocks and pray for Pastor Bob and his family. 1. May todays revelations be just one more step in your growth as a person of faith. All materials are posted on the site strictly for informational and educational purposes! Yet, there is a worry that she went into the transplant with almost an excessive amount of carelessness. Did Jesus forget or had he not yet read the play book? All over FB all the loyal supporters from his church are posting what I view as self-righteous comments. I can see now why so many Calvary Chapels changed their names to: Harvest, Maranatha Chapel, Applegate, those were the wise ones who were anticipating a scandal of this magnitude to hit, i think its no longer going to be the Calvary Chapel Association or affiliation that up and coming pastors will crave and seek, but more of a disassociation, as more CCs are now going to change their names, lets see heres some ideas, Refuge, Revive, the Not Bob Coy Chapel! What happened to Diane Ducharme (the mother of Radha)? - reddit In fact I have never seen a look of disgust to that degree on kids faces at any graduation ceremony. People just dont like the bible when it doesnt suit their faith. The guilty person must be reprimanded publicly to generate remorse that may lead to his repentance. You said that the 1,000 yrs had to be taken literally. And we now have media Pastor?? It can be if you want it that way here, after all, it is your blog. His board are all obviously morons. Andy, you are Eddie Murphy kind of funny. His first major customer was Vern Luce whose car, a 1933 coupe, won the Al Slonaker Award at the 1981 Oakland Roadster show. I admit that I sin regularly yet there has been a transformation that has taken place within me. Because God blesses their marriages, they experience genuine love which is far more satisfying and pleasurable than a lifetime of dishonest and destructive one night stands and empty relationships. A CCFL employee posted it on my blog and I started asking questions all over the place and then published the question. independent local journalism in Miami. So after some unspecified "very embarrassing behavior," Capitol fired him. The church clearly did not think this. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. When she's not writing, she's probably cooking or exploring new places. Instead of just cowardly putting it on a message board to a bunch of strangers. Just some of the things that were a turn off. I wan tho know ow long has he been having affairs Michael, if you have concret evidence that he committed adultery and was addicted to pornography can u provide any other details? MLD- Jesus wasnt literal and theres no book in your hand. Those that think me wrong for doing so, should set the example for me, and let it go. , --; , . thoughts? But two weeks after his surprise resignation, Assistant Pastor Chet Lowe filled Coy's followers in on what had happened. What is interesting to me is how little difference of opinion there is. list . Our reach is vast and includes TV programming, radio broadcast, video blog, podcast, digital music, and social media or print publishing resources. Diane Schuler Case | Wrong Way Crash Kills 8 Jay is 4 Justice Podcast 87.9K subscribers Join Subscribe 243 Share 8.7K views 1 year ago #dianeschuler. he dispatches each to their eternal destinies 5.) Coy is twisting in the wind. Sorry, youre a victim of the fallacy of false dichotomy. .As well as dcf reports on her. Serious people interpret the Bible and serious people disagree. Pastor Bob was my pastor for 20 years, and my heart is broken. To bag on sisters and brothers who are as convinced of their conclusions as you are of yours is ungracious, short-sighted, erodes your credibility, and fosters division in the church. A man of that importance-you dont think would have been brought before the congregation and prayed off as they have done in the past with others who have left? Did God ask you to do this? His name was Bob Coy, and until the previous year, he'd been the most famous Evangelical pastor in Florida. Jessica Hahn was a plant and Bakker was a willing stooge but I still felt bad for him. im sad. Sorry, been in and outlong night on many fronts. Where am I wrong on this? I know this to be true because you have stated many times that you read only the Bible. I have no crusading vendetta. You keep making claims that are revealing of your stature. In 2004, he even campaigned with Dubya around South Florida. I thought so. Gary, if you have an issue you can email me . I have judged no man here, in fact I am horribly sad that Mr. Coy is going through the crap hes created for himself, his family and his community, not judging, but truly sad. He was telling them that real actions in the Christian life work on your spirit. Sure glad its over. Frankly, they have been the source of the majority of the venom but I think most of us realize these are people in a sort of shock at the news, who are hurting and whose trust has been violated and are lashing out. 1828 edition of Websters. For the people at CC Fort Lauderdale, and the family of Bob Coy we should grieve and pray for the pain and disappointment, and even betrayal they must feel. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. You have defended your right to report the story, which I cannot dispute, and have vigorously expressed that those who disagree are killing the messenger or throwing you under the busbut my point was not to indeed do such, but to state that, due to the lives that are affected by this story (his family), and yes, by his sin, which I do not excuse in any way, that it may not have been in good humanity or taste to have reported the story before the church did on April 6. Its actually a struggle for you to keep your commitment to your wife? Moe #470, where was the church leadership teaching the women to dress modestly for church? He claims that he was present at the Martin Luther King assassination crime scenes. Look in Daniel 1 v 20. to the one who calls himself to anon how do you know Pastor Bob wasnt victimize? No one is that big an idiot as you are letting on. Phoenix Preacher 2023. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. The4Gospels present Him as Risen, do you trust in, rely on, and cling to this Risen Jesus as your only source of life? The statement went on to say that a team of assistant pastors already on staff will maintain their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services. Our focus as sinners needs to be on the health of our individual, intimate relationship with Him. HAVE YOU EVER VIEWED PORNOGRAPHY IN YOUR OVER 30 YEARS OF MARRIAGE? Calvary Chapel will always be my church, I never went there thinking that my pastors were saints, I went their to learn how to become a better person, how to live a faithful life with God, how to try and become more like Jesus TRY because no one in this planet has walked without sin except JESUS. This brother is as Gay as a Goose! I am glad to see the Board either making a deal to buy Coy out or maybe the Board had the power in the by-laws to deal with a moral failure like thisdunno, but do know that you cant really have a CC-style church that puts some much emphasis on their brand of transformation Gospel while pointing fingers at those outside the church for stuff like gay marriage etcand then have a guy in that CC pulpit that is addicted to p0rn and having relations with multiple women who are not his wife. Repeat. Anyone know? Just a simple yes or no will suffice. The message to Nebuchadnezzar is however long it takes for you to learn who is the Most High God.. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones. Its as if he could never do any wrong. This is where the church will be tested, was it Bob Coys church or the Lords church? Did you answer the questions? I have to agree. I loved the book and I want yall to pop over, read the review and see reasons why I think you would like it too. Everybody sins. Googlogian. Its not that I am questioning you, just that what you say rings truer to what I have heard in the past. Moe- I thought of the verse Does a dog return to its vomit. Coy's church won the suit plus $81,000 in damages and fees and the city, which organized the event, stopped offering sponsorships out of concern that hate groups might take advantage of the ruling. Andy, How I have seen just over the last two days, about where a person goes for Bible interpretation, will make all the difference. Chuck Missler and John Hagee wrote exactly what you are trying to sell. If Ive just offended anyone, well tough, but read through this thread and I think youll see it, and if you dont, may HE show you sooner than later. Tell me one Christian that doesnt consider Jesus Lord and I will tell you they are not a Christian. MLD In your desire to make the scriptures fit with your predisposed interpretation, youre assigning a secondary meaning that the text does not warrant, the text is giving us a period of time not a symbolic application as you are trying to assert. There is a reason God forgives us. But you are void on answering my points even right now you did not respond to the Acts 2 interpretation charge but diverted back to Luther. When you live in the mindset of the privileged then you begin to objectify everything in terms of how it takes care of you. 7 And when the THOUSAND YEARS are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the NATIONS WHICH ARE IN THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. I pray Kestler hasnt moved on to another church where he can keep the same pattern going, Unless he is truly restored spiritually to the Lord. This thread will be closed shortly so I can have an evening to do other things. Too much evidence to convince me otherwise. Your silence at the question presented to you is not a projection but a resounding answer to your hypocrisy, and the points I present are nowhere addressed, except to say Im an angry man, didnt Jesus speak of righteous indignation, but what did he say of cowards and hypocrites? This time, Smith and his son Jeff actually turned on their pastor, pushing him out. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80893448288/log-out. I am not telling them to let him keep his job. They are always the main arrows in the enemy quiver that are fiery darts. Many of the Bobbleheads are imputing motive, spiritual condition, and knowledge of the secret sins of those who object to Bobs infidelity. Unless you will claim that Revelation is not part of the Bible. both started their careers in his shop. Sharon, who has been given the news that she has chronic kidney illness, is content to spend the rest of her days with her husband, her children, and the profession she adores. My information says fired. I attended Calvary and sometimes was there 5 times a week for classes etc. There have been a large number of new posters (many anonymous) who arrived in the first couple days of the news. thou shalt not have moral failure with thy church women who arent thy wife, thus sayeth The Lord! donny, I asked politely. How come pastor fidel gomez has not appeared since Bob Coy resigned? How pointing out all these passages that you freely spiritualize help your claim of a literal 1,000 yr earthly reign is beyond me. well I should hope they would. Kempner had a historyand was unrepentantuntil I posted the arrest record. . Brian is extensively involved in missions and church planting around the world. Answer my question What do you disagree with Luther on? Peace. We who are conservative Christians love to lecture the world about their sins. Sorry Michael force not biting my tongue harder and spoiling your thread. Diane Coy - Facebook The MLK trail transcript makes it clear from witness testimony that the MLK crime scene was barricaded by police within 2 minutes of King getting shot. Nobody is perfect. IMO, in situations such as these adultery and the sexual temptation is not the core issue but is rather a symptom. And like all of us born a sinnner. Why hasnt it been called adultery?? As New Times revealed in an investigation published Tuesday, former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Pastor Bob Coy who once led the largest megachurch in Florida was accused in 2015 of. Leadership made every effort to let the staff and church hear directly from leadership rather than rumor by calling meetings for Sunday, our source, who asked not to be identified, told us. I dont know if I can remember everything I said. For the imature in Christcontinue to drink your milkwe are praying for you. MLD, no point in debating anything with you. So if one is in agreement with the end time position of CCFL, they would not want to sit under Tullians teachings. And please stop posting scripture with the Hebrew or Greek; its obvious youve studied neither since you cant even keep the tense straight in your run-on sentences. If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. The senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale's resignation comes amid reports of an affair scandal and admitting tocheatingon his wife, Diane Coy. "He's contacted many former associates to try to get funding. The victim wife of another scandal set up camp at a near by church SO if anyone can recommend a smaller church, please let me know. So good to hear from Diane Coy as - Good News Media Group - Facebook MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Again I presume your a single woman. Is Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel still living? Michael, youre kicking against Gods goading and your colors are showing. I knew you could. I showed that everything in Rev 20:1-6 was symbolic and figurative (angels dont have hands to carry a real chain to bind a spiritual being. BTW, what gauge chain do you think it would take to bind satan? Indwelling our hearts, He gives new life to us, empowers and imparts gifts to us for service. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. ALL THEY HAVE SAID WAS MORAL FAILURE NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. So pray for those left in the wake that HE made. I will remind all in this blog that Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery in your heart. "We take every allegation of abuse seriously and our prayers are with all those involved as they pursue redemption and healing. Jake and his mother were like her own sons to her. Most of us ended up here due to similar circumstances, i.e. It will do him wonders. How is this furthering the kingdom? His attorneys, meanwhile, persuaded a judge with deep Republican ties to seal the ex-pastor's divorce file to protect Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale from scrutiny. We took our kids out of the pool at 4 PM to make a 6 PM service. It was the Catholics then the reformed then the anabaptists to our modern movements of which CC was one, we shall have to wait and see what will be the next movement God raises, hey dont be so sad, CC had a good run, what was that like 50 years? It was like everyone was in a daze. My first teaching exposure at CCFtl was about Hosea and Gomer. Lordship doesnt mean sinless but you cant have Jesus as savior without Him also as Lord they go together. Did you commit adultery with them? Lets go after Bob and not let him go from our love in Christ! That whole situation made everyone pleased. Pastor Bob Coy and his wife Diane led a Florida ministry that grew to include satellite locations in Boynton Beach, Boca Raton, West Boca, Plantation, Hollywood, and the Keys, according to SunSentinel. . By my count, only 7 including myself have listed your names. God bless. Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew. , ; - , - . Is an argument really being expressed that the reporting of the news should have waited until after Sunday for Bobs wife and his children? Is all sin equal to God? Many asked what where his motives for this if not selfish and serve serving and THAT is NOT of GOD!!!!!! I have no issue with him looking at porn. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. Youre not speaking Gods words, youre talking out your sanctimonious backside and youre in sin. Of course all of this is only necessary if Bob continued his maneuvering with long tethers to his followerscause thats how unhealthy people of influence roll. If his marriage survives and I hope it does Bob will have to spend the rest of his days on his knees begging their forgiveness and thanking God for giving especially her too him. 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the land; and he shall smite the land with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Im glad its yours and yours alone, this way perhaps you might just keep your hypocrisy to yourself, just be ready that when you judge a man, you are ready to be judged as well! My hearts desire was for healing and restoration of the many people he hurt and for his repentance. THAT pastor contacted the board. Also, do you know that the powers-that-be removed numerous bushes that night from which the fatal shot was fired? How is it bogus? Your blessed sermons brought so many to the Lord. Diane also drew a picture for the jurors _ a roadway, a few trees and two trucks. At Smith's church, "you could come in jeans, and it didn't matter what your hair looked like or how long your beard was," says Thumma, the Hartford professor. I struggle with hate for it, and my own self image because of It. But Daddy held me down and the truck went over me, she said. , - ; , . 15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. You, however, are Martin Luthers disciple, so we know where to find the beliefs you swiped. "The law enforcement agency makes [its] decision on whether to bring the case to us," says Ron Ishoy, a spokesman for Satz. I have family and friends who have suffered the destruction of cheating and divorce, and the kids are the ones who are hurt the most. Just answer the question! Ive never been married. Im not going to Judge anybody, the behavior is absolutely wrong but Pastor Coy is still one of Gods Children , you loose your fellowship with Him until you truly repent and change course but you do not loose your salvation, that would make Jesus a failure and that my friend is Impossible, no one can take His sheep from his hand. It will be interesting in this post-Coy(tal) era to learn the truth as it comes out. No one even asked. Some complained anonymously that Smith was "dangerously lax in maintaining standards for sexual morality" among his preachers. Want it to stop. Coy, who was never charged with a crime, lay low after leaving Calvary but recently turned up at Boca Raton's Funky Biscuit, where he helps manage the club. Over the years he and other associate pastors hired family members and close friends. Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . David did not have the risen Jesus supposedly living in his heart, nor the power and anointing of the holy spirit that they claim, as current day proponents of the good news. For the mature in Christit shows how the solid food does you well.please pray for all involved as you are doing. This is the first resurrection. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale (CCFL) is an evangelical, charismatic megachurch in Florida, with over 20,000 worshipers attending on average. The sin that I spoke about happened 24 years ago, but the hurt caused is still fresh in my heart. Now, explain the literal meaning of the chain. We are all fools if we judge a fellow brother.to the amount of forgiveness and grace and mercy we give, it is given to us.go light on your brother, for we have been forgiven much.. anything else is not of Christ.beware.and anyone who tries to twist it, discipline is always meant for restoration. Is the devil chained up right now? The next year, Santa Ana police investigated the Costa Mesa chapel after a 12-year-old told a staffer that a pastor had been touching her inappropriately. If they see him relinquish controlsubmit to leadership he disagrees with, defers his influence to other more healthy leaders etc etc. And I did ask Andy and others if they could make a connection between Isaiah and the millennium? Michael, what is your intention with this? The only ones that are monogamous are the ones who have no choice because theyre either too old, too fat or too ugly or too poor. Now either dialogue with respect or go back to selling bridges to imaginary Calvinists. The strange thing is that Mark was with Bob for almost the entire 30 years as his #1 right hand man and Mark was a brilliant businessman. He teaches clearly that one can take the Mark of the beast and still be redeemed. A dear friends daughter became a Coy-ite while pursuing a degree in the Ft. Lauderdale area, and my friend jumped on the bandwagon after visiting CC during a trip down there. episode has aired, viewers are eager to find out what will happen in the Blue Bloods Season 13 Episode 15: You know that each episode of Blue Bloods consists of multiple storylines that all somehow relate to each SWAT Season 6 Episode 16 [Blowback] Luca makes a major decision, Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 15: Meet the newest Cooper. And if not, then the best thing is to keep your lying mouth shut! Do you know the reason for binding Satan? Kate Forbes: Would a Christian be permitted to lead Scotland. I actually have a lot of experience in having to deal with unwanted attention from married men both at work and at church. Would I rather blindly go church shopping through the yellow pages OR maybe narrow the search to 4-5 churchs that were RECOMMENDED? He was discharged shortly after New Year's Eve, but was readmitted a few days later to Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in Whittier, California. Fact. My sources (multiple) are accurate. The dinners were not at a charge per se. I would also see their wives looking at them and nudging them. A jury awarded the family $360,000 but ruled Calvary wasn't culpable. That is how it is then noted in the employees record. You and I argue a lotbut Im in agreement with you on this matter. Just my two cents. He has been instrumental in changing and saving thousands of lives, including my own. May the same be done to Bob Coy. MLD, I see. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. That may sound petty, but really, your comment is, well, naive. If so, what so called ministry does Bob demonstrate fidelity in that he can be restored to? where is pastor bob coy now 2020. Your cognitive dissonance is kicking in. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance. Good for you. why did your wife divorce you, were you unfaithful? MLD, I dont know anything about Babylons Dread. Wait, what? You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. Im asking sincere questions. So if you have a problem with that, take it up with God. And Israel becoming a nation in 1948? We are a body in need of healing, this should be a time for all those afflicted similarly to be provided with a vehicle to come forward and seek healing. "Our former pastor was caught in sin," Lowe said April 16, according to the Sun Sentinel. By sheer volume in the epistles, doctrine is brought up more than moral issues. It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. Why would they allow or risk the public seeing this crime scene being removed and altered? Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. and help keep the future of New Times, Use of this website constitutes acceptance of our. If it comforts you to think otherwise, thats not my problem. God credits His righteousness to those who put their faith in Christ alone for their salvation, thereby justifying them in His sight. Its as consistent as the law of gravitythe CC senior pastor marching up the sinner in front of the church to confess their sin publiclythen when its their turnthey want maximum grace and privacy and its a different standard. Sure would make the shame easier to bear. I wonder how many were out there defending Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker when they fell into sexual sin? they will mention Israel 100 times for every mention of Jesus Christ. I dont always agree with his point of view and we have had a few discussions to that end. I think that is the only thing I have understood you say in days. Its their soft term for adultery. Boy do you have to stretch to believe this stuff. But to be honest, I dont think eschatology should be a dividing line doctrine that some folks put it into. Weve had too much of that here lately and it hurts us all. There is obviously far more to the story that I dont have sufficient verification on. Jesus,Jesus, Jesus.in everything Ive read, not one has acknowledged that He died for this very reasonEVERYONE OF US IS GUILTY. (It's unclear if he worked there.) Please reveal your sources, or at least generically their affiliation to Calvary Chapelor leave the story alone and let the church handle it in house.thank you, AND GOD BLESS YOU!! Lets flesh this out peeps. Flynn, one cannot separate doctrine from practice; the two do not exist separately. [10] not to cast doubt on your reporting or professional abilities, but this is a serious allegation, and deserves all investigation and information gathering before any public news report is made regarding the particularities of Mr. Coys problemsand those should remain between he and his family in any event! Nowadays we are mostly committed to serious dialogue and ongoing relationships. In 2007, Christianity Today spoke to numerous Calvary pastors across the country. The infallible Word of God, the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments, is a complete and unified witness to Gods redemptive acts, culminating in the incarnation of the Living Word, the Lord Jesus Christ. What are you talking about BD, the context was always Isaiah 11, I never made reference to Rev 5, you did, pulling a Jehovahs Witness move, instead of dealing with the passage, jumping somewhere that had nothing to do with the millennium that I was addressing, so you could try to prove your point, and your pretense at trying to be superior is typical of preterists when they cant defend their view! The enemy is now going to go to work and use this to do precisely what I see going on in this blog. That has calmed my spirit a little. You can listen at their website. They have arrived at those conclusions with serious thought, study, prayer, and reliance on guidance from the Spirit of God and His scripture. The conversation is humorous. And there they go, a lamb is not a lion a lion and a lamb are the same lol, anybody want a pretzel? Bible preaching and teaching is being dumbed down, so that you have to read everything literally, imposing 21 century ideas of history and science on the text, or your not a faithful Christian. I listened to the message at calvary today. Please click here to learn how. You must have wrote it after I closed the thread. Loss of respect. Whether you are a participant in CCFL or not, the bigger picture here is that Pastor Bob is not Jesus! Genuine Christianity doesnt waste its time sin sniffing or telling others what to do or how to live. When we objectify we act as gods. He soon became known for building unique hot rods and in 1977 he opened his own shop, Hot Rods by Boyd, in Stanton, California. We all do it. Andy, Lets try this show me 2 things; 1.) There are a lot of Calvary Chapelites out there that almost worship Bob more than Christ. In 1996, the church paid $21 million for a 75-acre campus just east of Florida's Turnpike off Cyprus Creek Road, where Coy often dipped into politics to guide his massive flock. Thankfully, this isnt my first rodeo. God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. How often do you pronounce curses in Gods name? Because of this, I am no longer listening to Reach FM. Michael can you confirm the involvement of Bob Barnes as someone who was instrumental in all this coming to light? I mark you as a false teacher whose teaching is, what were the words you used of others??? 12 And He will set up an ensign for the nations, and will assemble the dispersed of Israel, and gather together the scattered of Judah from the four corners of the earth.